Ep 43 – Telco’s Pinball Wizard: Neil McRae
BT Chief Architect Neil McRae talks about the company's digital transformation and strategies for working with hyperscalers … and pinball, of course!
You know that feeling when you’ve had so little sleep that you’re giddy?
I’ve been that way for 105 days. That’s how long my team and I had to create CLOUD CITY, the belle of the MWC21 ball. Every dream I had for the space back in March came true this week.
What made CLOUD CITY so great? I don’t even know where to start. Our CLOUD CITY LIVE educational programming was some of the best at the event. Cloud-native startup Totogi launched from our booth. The software vendors who joined us raved about the connections they made on the floor. Our telepresence robots brought virtual attendees into our booth to watch demos and share in the excitement. Our CLOUD CITY UNPLUGGED concerts were the talk of the industry. And all of this happened inside one of the most beautiful installations I’ve ever seen.
After the closing bell rang, I made my way to our yacht in Barcelona’s harbor, picked up a glass of champagne, and got on Google Chat with my friend David Haselwood.
Regular listeners will remember that he helped me kickoff preparations for MWC21 on episode 16 way back in March. Hit the play button to hear:
We did it. We went all-in on MWC21 and achieved more than we dreamed possible. And that’s exactly what you’ll do when you go all-in on the public cloud.

– and by the end of the event I sounded just like her at 1:40 in this video
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CLOUD CITY was TelcoDR’s takeover of Ericsson’s 65,000-square-foot booth space at MWC21 in Barcelona—built in just 105 days. It featured CLOUD CITY Live, a 50-speaker educational programming series, demos from dozens of public cloud-focused vendors, telepresence robots for virtual attendees, and a Jon Bon Jovi acoustic concert. It became the most talked-about installation at the event.
Prior to MWC21, the public cloud was largely absent from the mainstream MWC agenda—themes were set by legacy players with little room for challengers. By building CLOUD CITY from scratch and filling it with cloud-native vendors, DR demonstrated real industry momentum around public cloud for telco, creating what she described as a “seismic shift” that even traditional media and old-guard industry figures couldn’t ignore. Read coverage from Fierce Telecom, Light Reading, and RCR Wireless News.
DR’s strategy was to build a “CLOUD CITY Army”—a coalition of public cloud-focused software and infrastructure vendors grouped by category (BSS, network, IT transformation). Rather than compete for attention individually, the vendors collectively reinforced the public cloud message. As DR put it, “the sum of the parts can be greater than the whole.” Vendors raved about the organic connections made on the floor.
CLOUD CITY drew 7,500 people to the booth. Totogi alone sorted through close to 500 leads. One participating vendor closed an $80 million software deal on the floor. Senior executives—including CEOs of major telco groups—attended MWC21 without large entourages, giving the CLOUD CITY Army direct, high-quality access to decision-makers that would typically take years to cultivate.
Totogi is DR’s cloud-native charging startup, built on the public cloud. DR chose MWC21 as the official launch platform for Totogi, using the CLOUD CITY stage and the massive industry audience to introduce the company to the telecom world. The launch generated hundreds of leads in just three days—compressing what DR described as “three years of sales development into three days.”
Yes—DR confirmed during the episode that CLOUD CITY will return for MWC22 in February. Planning was set to begin immediately after MWC21 wrapped. DR invited vendors, partners, and attendees from the 2021 event to share feedback and express interest in participating. Watch DR’s MWC21 keynote on demand to see what the CLOUD CITY Army is building.